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what's up everybody

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thanks for joining us uh we have a

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wonderful tuesday in store

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just

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a great tuesday

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maybe the best tuesday

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that tuesday's ever had

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like in the history of tuesdays

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so if you find a book

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that really goes in depth on tuesday

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and you know

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previous tuesdays and maybe even future

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tuesdays you'll find

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that this

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is going to be in there

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why is that because we have dan

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this is signal

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and dan is uh such a treasure obviously

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for the ufo community it's people like

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him that really paved the way for

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you know us

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you know more new people to come in here

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and try to help out and

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um you know do what we can to end uap

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secrecy

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um

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for those of you who have not heard i am

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throwing a special show

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for um december 17th

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which is i guess an end uap secrecy day

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it's going to be an eight-hour show

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um i'm going to

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try to put a lot of emphasis in making

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it um like a global show with

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researchers and and you know people

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around the world

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that's where the emphasis is going to be

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um

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you can go to the video for a little

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more information

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if you want

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um i'd read it to you but you know i

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read enough stuff to you you don't need

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to you don't need to hear that

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[Laughter]

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so uh

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wait hold on

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i just saw this comment it gave me pause

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robert how many dresses did your mice

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make today for the ball

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all right we're starting out hot

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beautiful

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so

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megan uh christian everybody joe's

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grandmaster

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um everybody who's in here thank you so

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much for hanging out

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we are gonna get started in just a sec

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we have dan

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this is signal

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um backstage drinking cold brews we

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gotta get him on the stage before he's

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half drunk

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he's got to perform so

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[Music]

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yeah so that was it

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cool and without further ado we have mr

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danzi how are you hello good evening

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it's nice to finally be here

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yeah it's nice to uh finally have you

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here you are doing this for a while so

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i'm glad we finally got to it

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you don't owe me anything

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yeah so

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super excited to have you here i mean

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um you know you're somebody i've

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respected and have watched and followed

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you know since i you know got here

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basically and

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um

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yeah

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well a lot of the reason is well you're

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an artist

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you know so i guess i kind of latched on

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to that right away um

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and you know kind of made me feel like

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there was room

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for your heart

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you know sure well so that was the whole

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thing like when when i started doing i

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can't even remember what my first thing

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was now whether it was the tic-tac or

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the louis lozando truth art

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but there was no one really you know

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there were artists in the community but

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there was no one really

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shaking and moving and using it to help

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the cause along you know so i just

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started making graphics and things like

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that that to me were low hanging fruit

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but now there are so many other

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wonderful artists in the field but i'm

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just like cool there's nothing left for

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me to do you know it's great

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well that's not true

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because you're still obviously very

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unique so um

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you know that's the cool thing about art

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though isn't it like

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there can be

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a saturated market of art but the thing

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is well you know commercial art maybe is

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um with artists like yourself

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there's always going to be a difference

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there's always going to be something

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unique to you

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uh that stands out you know which yeah i

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know what you mean like i feel like i

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could hear a piece of uh you know one of

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your songs and just be like yeah that's

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sean you know i told them um i call them

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horcrux you you know you know in harry

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potter how voldemort puts his soul into

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the various items like ah that really

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resonates with people they they carry

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little bits of people's souls and

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experience in them you know and it's

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just a way of a way of talking and

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sharing your truth with the world i

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that a good artist and a good piece of

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art you always know when it kind of

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talks back at you

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yeah no you're right um and it's not

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that easy to do for some people to put

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you know make themselves vulnerable

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enough i guess uh yeah for sure you know

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put that in there yeah most and

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we all kind of express it in different

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ways as well i think you know people say

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someone sat coding in a database

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probably doesn't think of themselves as

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creative but the more we go kind of down

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this path and talk about consciousness i

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i think of creative people as intuitive

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people so people that kind of just get

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ideas from nowhere and it doesn't matter

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making music or making out you know

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we're all kind of tapping into the same

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place whatever the hell that is you know

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yeah right i think but that's what we're

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yeah for sure

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because it's probably that same place

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yeah i think so i i mean you know in

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days gone by someone like yourself would

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have been called a shaman you know

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it's a bit different these days but you

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plucking songs from the ether and

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singing them to people around a campfire

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who regulated you know it's really how

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did you do that

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yeah right it's like is that a magic

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trick well i have this computer here and

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that'd be cool if you could plug

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you know plug it into the fire somehow

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just directly just chuck the lead in and

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um you know what's

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interesting i don't know if you've seen

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this at all but we have

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oh first of all what's up rather

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oh we have i'm not i'm never used to

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having the comments here

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oh that's okay

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nigel what's up

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uh spaghetti joe's christian everybody

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hello again benji

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benji's been my michael shot did make

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ufo and he he did really cool

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recreations as well kind of 3d

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imagination pieces you know of

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encounters kind kind of like what you

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know olaf's doing

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sorry he's doing you know he he does a

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lot of work behind the scenes where

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he'll work with experiences to to get

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encounter down on paper and it's really

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therapeutic for people you know it's

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really altruistic of him and it's very

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cool

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yeah i actually asked

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i asked him if he could do mine

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oh cool

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yeah i saw his last one he did for

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somebody it was

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you know everything he does is really

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cool but and i was kind of struggling

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with the way of um

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making mine come to life visually

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okay because i'm not really good at that

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and so i just asked him he's a super

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busy guy so hopefully we'll get to

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work on that for sure

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yeah for sure there are so many people

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i mean you know there's a pile of stuff

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to work through i i kind of get the same

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and you get the same property just you

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know people that want to talk to you and

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stuff like that and you you try and give

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your time to everybody and it just means

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that you're a little less productive

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than you'd like to be yeah we all get

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there and it's worth the wait

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yeah for me it's like

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it's

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song or work on like a graphics for the

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show or

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hang out with my wife for dogs

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you know and it's like you got to pick

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and choose whatever you put the

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attention on you know the other category

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gets a little less but yeah yeah yeah

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these days i'm trying to be a bit more

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you know in the moment i'll go to the

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thing that i really want to do which

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means i have so many half-inch projects

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and just sketches and things like that

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but it's always great for future me to

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kind of come back to that and kind of go

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oh wow this is basically a finished idea

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i've just gotta you know add the icing

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and tidy it up

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hey did you hear about what happened

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with uh christina gomez

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oh youtube got taken down that sucks man

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i don't know

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why that would happen

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i no idea really it's really scary

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though

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i i haven't backed up

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yet and i'm just like oh god yeah i'm

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gonna do that

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asap

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yeah um i don't know

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yeah how could you possibly do that and

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facebook owns youtube i think right yeah

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i'm not sure uh

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it's the alphabet right like facebook is

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now well it's google to matter in and of

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itself i think simulation is breaking

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yeah i think so um

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yeah hopefully it's a mistake

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i haven't like it's pretty fresh so

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like i'm not sure really what's

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happening with it i know that happened

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um and people are upset about like

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censorship or anything like that right

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yeah of course i'm just not sure when it

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happened so if it like just happened

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maybe it was a mistake or maybe

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i don't know it's possible that like

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youtube is on the side of caution and

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just i don't know like take something

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down and then once you get in touch and

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have the conversation with them it's

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fairly easy to solve that's what i'm

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hoping for for christina because she's

284
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put so much work into that channel um

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that yeah that would suck if she loses

286
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that

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um

288
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but you know she's got a good community

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and together we'll figure something out

290
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whatever whatever that means and

291
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whatever we have to do so yeah

292
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definitely

293
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yeah for sure she's good people so

294
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people will follow her you know if she

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lets people know that she's on vimeo or

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something like that people will just go

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there

298
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if you build it they will come oh he

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will come as vinnie said that's what

300
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i saw that comment i was like ah yeah

301
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i'm surprised we could get busted for

302
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that but you know to be determined i

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suppose now you had a

304
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go ahead sorry go on i was just gonna

305
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say we we got our first copyright strike

306
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on that ufo podcast we were talking

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about

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we on our kgra

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uh show we

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last week we were talking about the

311
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comments from officials kind of since

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2017 and we put them all in order and

313
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kind of cued them up and we were talking

314
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through them and it was amazing to see

315
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how they changed and what stayed the

316
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same you know um but yeah we got slammed

317
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by uh stephen colbert um and but it's

318
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only limited in japan so if you're in

319
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japan i'm very sorry you can't see that

320
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but um just get in touch i'll send you a

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copy of the video that's cool

322
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i'll google drive you

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yeah

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so

325
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do you put a lot of work into

326
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um i know i'm kind of um hard shifting

327
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the topics here but do you put a lot of

328
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work into

329
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meditation and consciousness and and

330
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working with that and trying to expand

331
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yeah

332
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and it started an interesting place for

333
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me um

334
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i can grab something if you'll excuse me

335
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i i kind of have a problem excuse me um

336
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i'm just going

337
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for a second here we go i'm back i'm

338
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back

339
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so i have a prop for this one these

340
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sound like petals these are called

341
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mayadin uh they're fake pills they're

342
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not really called reminding that is an

343
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anagram of your mind um

344
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so basically these pills i'll just show

345
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you one they were

346
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blue pills like this and they are sugar

347
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pills

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and i don't know if you know of darren

349
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brown he's like a

350
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an illusionist that uses the power of

351
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the mind he's one of those guys and

352
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he'll kind of you know subconsciously

353
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suggest things and introduce colors and

354
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environments and and kind of mess with

355
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you that way um

356
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and usually his stuff is very tricky you

357
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know like there's one way he sets up

358
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um to see whether someone would murder

359
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someone and he puts four people through

360
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that same thing this one's on netflix

361
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and

362
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you know the people have just got to

363
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react to their results of whether they

364
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would push someone off a building or not

365
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you know

366
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really interesting psychological stuff

367
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for this one he went on a bit of a

368
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an altruistic streak and he he started

369
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using using his powers for good will say

370
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um so i was part of that um it was

371
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called fear and faith and there's an

372
00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:06,880
episode of it you can watch it you'll

373
00:14:12,389 --> 00:14:10,240
see me in it for a few few bits

374
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yeah man um this was really the start of

375
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the mindfulness stuff for me because i

376
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saw how it worked and as part of this

377
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process i had to go to london and

378
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funnily enough it wasn't far from where

379
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i did this that we met lou for lunch and

380
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um

381
00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:26,959
while while i was there we we were

382
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hypnotized there was like 100 of us and

383
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there were loads of groups going through

384
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and they hypnotized us and they wanted

385
00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:34,480
suggestible people i guess to kind of

386
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put through this because we would be

387
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easier to to induce things in um and i

388
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remember you know i forgot my name i

389
00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:42,800
forgot what day of the week it was and

390
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it was interesting to go through an

391
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experience hypnosis because to me it

392
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felt like when i was a kid and i would

393
00:14:52,389 --> 00:14:50,560
pretend to be a dinosaur and in my head

394
00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:52,399
i wasn't pretending you know i was i was

395
00:14:57,189 --> 00:14:54,320
a t-rex for ten minutes you know

396
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yeah um so it was kind of that and i

397
00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:59,519
kind of posit that if you're creative

398
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you'll be very susceptible to hypnosis

399
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just because you're kind of into using

400
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your imagination and it's a muscle that

401
00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:09,120
you use a lot um and yeah there was the

402
00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:11,920
the person selecting said to me that i

403
00:15:15,189 --> 00:15:13,519
was chosen because

404
00:15:17,189 --> 00:15:15,199
we first thing that happened when we

405
00:15:19,750 --> 00:15:17,199
went in is we were told that we had mice

406
00:15:21,350 --> 00:15:19,760
we were hypnotized to imagine this mouse

407
00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:21,360
and we had to describe the mice and

408
00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:22,480
stuff like that and then put them on the

409
00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:25,040
side of the room and for about an hour

410
00:15:29,110 --> 00:15:26,320
and a half while we were going through

411
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this hypnosis filter um

412
00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:30,639
apparently i didn't take my eyes off the

413
00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:32,560
mice or my mouse it was running around

414
00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:33,920
the room and i was watching it kind of

415
00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:35,759
go and they were kind of like wow you

416
00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:38,000
kind of really you still don't really

417
00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:40,480
imagined it there um so yeah they chose

418
00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:42,800
me and i went through it and my my fear

419
00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:45,839
was um oh well sorry let me backtrack

420
00:15:49,030 --> 00:15:47,279
there were a number of different groups

421
00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:49,040
that went through the show

422
00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:50,560
some of them went through for things

423
00:15:53,910 --> 00:15:51,519
like

424
00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:53,920
addiction with smoking um some people

425
00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:56,000
kind of had physical ailments so one guy

426
00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:57,920
had really bad dermatitis on his hand

427
00:16:01,350 --> 00:16:00,000
and he couldn't wear his wedding ring um

428
00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:01,360
other people

429
00:16:04,389 --> 00:16:03,040
wanted to be more intelligent so they'd

430
00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,399
be using this pill as a kind of

431
00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:06,959
limitless thing

432
00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:09,040
and yeah i forgot some of the other ones

433
00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:10,079
but there were a number of them and

434
00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:12,160
they're all in the show

435
00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:14,240
but my group was fear-based

436
00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:16,240
so we were kind of addressing our fears

437
00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:17,839
and there was a guy in my group who

438
00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:19,440
didn't like public confrontation there

439
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:20,959
was one that didn't like heights and

440
00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:22,720
they were all taken to places where they

441
00:16:26,949 --> 00:16:25,120
could you know address this like the

442
00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:26,959
heights guy had to dangle off a railway

443
00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:29,120
bridge and feel okay doing it uh which

444
00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:31,279
was amazing to see within a month ago

445
00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:34,000
from terrified of heights to that yeah

446
00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:34,880
um

447
00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:37,199
and my one was sharks

448
00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:40,399
i i had a reoccurring dream yeah man i

449
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:42,160
had a recurring dream

450
00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:43,680
where

451
00:16:47,269 --> 00:16:45,040
i'd be

452
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:47,279
like i knew i was scared of sharks and i

453
00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:48,880
think it comes from when i was younger

454
00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:49,680
my

455
00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:51,279
mother used to tell me that you know the

456
00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:53,040
greats in a swimming pool

457
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,800
that if i didn't get out of the pool

458
00:16:57,910 --> 00:16:56,480
when she asked me to that the sharks

459
00:17:00,310 --> 00:16:57,920
would be released from these great

460
00:17:02,629 --> 00:17:00,320
things so it's always been in my head

461
00:17:03,749 --> 00:17:02,639
you know and i always kind of panic and

462
00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:03,759
it's stupid because of course they're

463
00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:05,039
not sharks in a swimming pool but

464
00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,400
apparently this is something i'd share

465
00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:08,640
with christina ricci she this is a very

466
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:11,120
specific fear apparently yeah i had no

467
00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:12,959
idea when when someone sent it to me i

468
00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:15,439
was like no way it's an actual thing so

469
00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:17,120
anything that makes you feel you know

470
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:20,959
not alone in it it works exactly right

471
00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:23,760
so i i had to go to like london aquarium

472
00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,600
and kind of go close to the glass you

473
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:27,360
know it was all closed off and and i had

474
00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:28,559
to get as close to the sharks as

475
00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:31,600
possible um and i found them super goofy

476
00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:33,280
but it was eventually revealed anyway

477
00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:34,880
that this

478
00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:37,200
this pill was a sugar pill and it was

479
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:38,799
you know all the power of our mind kind

480
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,280
of overcoming these fears all along um

481
00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:43,520
the way it was explained was like fight

482
00:17:47,669 --> 00:17:45,600
or flight but now we had access to about

483
00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:47,679
five or six different reactions in the

484
00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:49,760
same amount of time which i was like oh

485
00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:52,160
that's interesting you know um so that's

486
00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:53,840
really where my journey with mindfulness

487
00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:56,000
began and when when i saw the power of

488
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,080
the placebo first hand

489
00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:00,320
uh i was like wow there's something here

490
00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:02,559
and and i went and that's when i got my

491
00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:04,240
i have a solar system tattooed on my

492
00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:05,840
back with kind of loads of different

493
00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:07,760
things mixed in that's when i first got

494
00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:09,919
that and ever since

495
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:12,000
getting that i've yeah i've just been on

496
00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:14,320
this mindfulness journey um going

497
00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:16,640
through some of the monroe tapes i have

498
00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:18,720
uh i forget what it's called one of

499
00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:20,799
those headbands that tracks the your

500
00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:23,440
brain waves and things like that um so

501
00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:25,039
you can try and it's actually really

502
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:29,200
cool a muse it's called um

503
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,039
it gives you through your headphones and

504
00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:33,760
noisy environments so like say a stormy

505
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:35,039
environment

506
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:36,960
sure and using

507
00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:37,760
just

508
00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:40,000
kind of trying to calm yourself you can

509
00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:42,960
calm the storm or increase the the chaos

510
00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:45,360
of the storm and the goal is to get it

511
00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:47,600
quiet enough that you can hear birds

512
00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:50,080
and it's fun kind of

513
00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:52,559
you know inducing that through

514
00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:54,160
literally just kind of flexing these

515
00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:56,240
muscles you didn't know you had um like

516
00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:57,520
really special

517
00:19:01,669 --> 00:19:00,720
like real birds or birds in your head

518
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,679
well you know what i mean just

519
00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,520
headphones you know okay

520
00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:05,520
but it it's reacting to your brain waves

521
00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:06,640
and the different states kind of

522
00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:08,640
different levels of storm calmness and

523
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:09,840
this is what i don't know if you know

524
00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:11,840
our buddy bolton uh alien protocols he

525
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:13,679
uses one of these a lot they're about

526
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:16,559
100 pounds um they're pretty cool though

527
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:17,760
you know once these would have been

528
00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:19,600
millions of pounds you'd have to go to a

529
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:21,679
lab and be hooked up and look crazy

530
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:23,200
sci-fi and now i'm just like yeah i have

531
00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:24,400
one at home

532
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:26,720
no that makes sense i mean typically

533
00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:30,160
like what what i do is

534
00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:32,559
like i have some artists that to me just

535
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,760
make the most beautiful

536
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:36,480
soul-inspiring

537
00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:39,600
uh music you know like cigarettes i

538
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:42,160
really like uh the glitch yeah

539
00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,400
yeah and it's you know just beautiful

540
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:47,039
strings and and you know sounds and

541
00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:49,280
stuff i'd recommend lights in motion if

542
00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:52,640
you don't know those it's one guy um and

543
00:19:58,470 --> 00:19:55,200
he starts start with the first album

544
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,480
um reanimation i think it was called um

545
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,400
but yeah light emotion and i think he'll

546
00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:02,559
dig it all casual stuff a lot a lot of

547
00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:04,720
his stuff was used for like oscar

548
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,320
trailers during the ceremony and things

549
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:08,000
like that so

550
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,840
yeah uh all that kind of stuff i think

551
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:11,440
you'll dig it

552
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:13,120
yeah and i just

553
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:16,400
you know and i let the sounds just play

554
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:18,799
off my imagination and

555
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:20,640
kind of take me somewhere

556
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:21,520
can you

557
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:24,240
can i ask do you see comments too

558
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,080
colors oh yeah

559
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,240
cool yeah definitely

560
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:30,960
um i usually end up on the moon

561
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:32,559
nice

562
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:34,720
yeah the last time i did it uh there was

563
00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:38,000
definitely like some sort of

564
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:40,000
tunnel thing going up through the

565
00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:42,400
ceiling out of me and i you know was

566
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:44,799
watching my body get smaller as i was

567
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:46,720
going upwards and

568
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:47,600
um

569
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,080
a lot of stuff that i can't describe

570
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:52,400
what was happening you know

571
00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:54,400
um and then i always wind up like on the

572
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:56,240
moon with a bunch of

573
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,280
like um light beings who i feel like are

574
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:01,440
kind of like my soldiers my protection

575
00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:03,360
my my homies

576
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,360
you know my spiritual my spiritual

577
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:07,280
friends or whatever you want to call it

578
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:08,080
and

579
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,440
yeah it's intense but the music really

580
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:14,080
paints the picture for me um and really

581
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:15,760
helps with

582
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:18,000
do that aren't no no are you do you

583
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,159
think like

584
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:22,480
the meditation or anything is like a to

585
00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:24,400
each their own type of thing whatever

586
00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:26,000
works for you

587
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:26,799
yeah

588
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:28,799
you know when whenever i talk to any of

589
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:30,159
my friends about meditation they always

590
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,760
kind of go oh you know i try and i can't

591
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:33,840
sit down for five minutes and stay still

592
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:35,840
but when i say to them oh you know when

593
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,919
your husband or your wife is watching

594
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:39,039
you know their favorite show and you're

595
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:40,880
on the sofa do you zone out and they're

596
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:42,640
like yeah i'm like cool you meditated

597
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:44,240
for a half hour you didn't realize what

598
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:45,520
you were doing you know it's just

599
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,799
letting your head run through those

600
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,840
buffers

601
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:49,600
and giving yourself space to do that

602
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,880
otherwise your head just feels like

603
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,640
chaos and once you run through enough of

604
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:54,480
it you

605
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:56,240
you can just kind of slot into that zone

606
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:58,240
of silence once you find it and it's

607
00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:00,000
just so so refreshing but it does get

608
00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:01,120
addictive

609
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,720
you know being up in london when i'm

610
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,480
kind of in someone that enjoys my

611
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:06,480
silence was was a bit chaotic at times

612
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:07,600
for me

613
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:11,120
yeah no i yeah i can imagine and just

614
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:12,640
trying to quiet yourself tom quiet

615
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:14,880
everything down is sounds so beautiful

616
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:17,120
so many so many different points of the

617
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:18,320
day

618
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:19,760
um

619
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,559
so

620
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,960
where are you at now with with uh

621
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:24,480
consciousness do you

622
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,520
do you have any tangible way to to show

623
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:29,360
yourself that that

624
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,039
you know you're expanding

625
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:33,440
or retracting or staying at the same

626
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:36,559
spot or is it not like that and you're

627
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,120
just playing it this is what it is

628
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:41,120
there's definitely a sensation

629
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,960
like a kind of

630
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,720
it's not quite pins and needles but you

631
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,840
know when you're kind of your hands

632
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,039
waking up and it's not that

633
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:49,280
uncomfortable pins and needles kind of

634
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,640
like that and it always starts from my

635
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,320
feet and i can kind of spread it upwards

636
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,559
or downwards and always when it gets to

637
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,320
my neck there's an interesting thing

638
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,840
that happens because i feel like there's

639
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:00,240
kind of a ball off the back of my head

640
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:03,200
um you know i've i've in my crazy

641
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,720
moments asked people to ask is there a

642
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:06,320
ball there and obviously there's no ball

643
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:08,159
like but

644
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,280
you know like

645
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:10,880
some people might argue that that's chi

646
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,840
or something like that that i'm

647
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:13,840
experiencing i really don't know it's a

648
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:15,679
journey of discovery for me

649
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,480
yeah

650
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:18,640
so you get like physical sensations and

651
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:21,520
everything yeah yeah and i've heard um

652
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:23,440
i've heard gary nolan speak about you

653
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:24,880
know people that can induce those kind

654
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:27,600
of tingles and things like that and and

655
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,760
it makes me curious i i'd like to get in

656
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:31,600
his mri i think i think there's some

657
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,679
weirdness in my past that

658
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:35,280
could contribute

659
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:38,559
yeah yeah no i i hear you

660
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:39,360
um

661
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:41,440
yeah

662
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:43,919
you're a fellow creative and again when

663
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,120
i say creative i'm going to switch the

664
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:47,200
word and say you're a fallow intuitive

665
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:48,320
you know think back to your closing

666
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,080
counters of the third kind all these

667
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:52,400
shoes went towards the mountain and

668
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:54,159
you know that included scientists and

669
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:55,919
military people as well everyone was

670
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:58,240
yeah for a reason and yeah the more i

671
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:59,440
going down this road tomorrow i'm like

672
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:01,039
oh wow that's really fascinating that it

673
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:02,640
was all those people that went and no

674
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:03,600
one else

675
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:05,760
interesting that is interesting

676
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:07,600
yeah i think maybe yeah it's just the

677
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,799
ability to open yourself up more

678
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:12,400
freely

679
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,080
perhaps or be more vulnerable to

680
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:18,240
a universe that may want to creep inside

681
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:23,190
you know interested in a phrase

682
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,000
yeah

683
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:26,080
um

684
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:29,360
yeah and just always like wanting to

685
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:30,240
you know

686
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,080
to get to the top of the mountain i

687
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:34,159
guess yeah

688
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:36,000
yeah you know and always trying to fight

689
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:38,720
to be the best person you can

690
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:40,480
there's a balance to be had i think you

691
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:41,600
know when you think of the story of the

692
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:44,000
tower of uh babel you

693
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:45,679
we always get to that top and when we

694
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:48,000
get to almost that point of universal

695
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,679
language where we can all communicate on

696
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:51,279
that intuitive level we always end up

697
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:54,000
back down at the bottom um and you know

698
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,440
just like the flood myths i wonder if

699
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:57,600
there's something in there

700
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:59,840
like the what i'm sorry the flood myths

701
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,880
you know how like a lot of different

702
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,039
religions will have their myths that oh

703
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,760
right right right right you know yeah it

704
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,600
seems to be a common factor and i i

705
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:09,520
don't really know what happened but

706
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:11,520
something left a mark in in the myth you

707
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:12,320
know

708
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,760
yeah there could be some sort of um good

709
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:17,840
good thinking maybe a personal uh

710
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:20,480
journey the flood perhaps

711
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:21,200
yeah

712
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:24,000
who who knows but typically

713
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:26,080
you just gotta find them

714
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:28,400
typically knows someone yeah

715
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,360
um

716
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:31,279
but that you know that's kind of goes to

717
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:32,960
show how a lot of those stories in the

718
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:36,559
bible and other stories can be fantastic

719
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:40,000
if you you know take from it what works

720
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:42,960
for you in your life you know like like

721
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,840
lyrics to a song you know that's i think

722
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,679
sometimes that's why people like songs

723
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,840
more than other songs because the words

724
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,840
in it for whatever reason are ones that

725
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:53,840
they can more easily

726
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,559
um take in um

727
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:58,320
you know tattoo on their current

728
00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:01,600
situation or what have you yeah and and

729
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,120
i love it that

730
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,799
it depends on when you hear something in

731
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,400
your life as well you know i've

732
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,320
experienced that whether it be musical

733
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,720
films that i've hated and then i've gone

734
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,240
back to and just that wow i was not in

735
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:14,159
the right place for this or even i

736
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:16,400
remember before reading the life of pi

737
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:18,159
literally the day before

738
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:20,320
i i kind of something switched on me and

739
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:21,840
i just thought i want to learn about a

740
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:24,480
lot of different religions and then

741
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,480
i i'd been intended to read the life for

742
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,320
ages but then when i started reading it

743
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,840
and it started with the discussion of

744
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:31,039
all the different religions and this

745
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:32,640
frustrated trial saying i just want to

746
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:34,159
love god why are there so many different

747
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,440
ways to love god and why are you

748
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:37,840
fighting about it um i was like wow i

749
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:40,240
really without that inclination to want

750
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:41,679
to learn about these different religions

751
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,039
i really wouldn't have been open to the

752
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:45,200
lesson this book was giving me right now

753
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:47,360
right it's interesting it's beautiful

754
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,320
yeah

755
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:50,240
um

756
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,279
now you had a switch subjects again i do

757
00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:55,600
i do hard hard switches now i'm done

758
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,990
with it man

759
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:57,840
[Laughter]

760
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,360
um you had a pretty adventurous weekend

761
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,000
with uhp media uk

762
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,559
um

763
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,760
yeah

764
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:09,679
i went to bed early last night woke up i

765
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,559
want to say about 1pm today

766
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,799
which is hilarious because all the other

767
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:16,400
guys wake up before me you know graham's

768
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:18,840
an early riser uh

769
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:20,960
yeah with the sunrise you know but i'll

770
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,320
wake up i really didn't want to bed

771
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,000
because i like the stars so i was at the

772
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,760
back kind of just watching those and

773
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,120
yeah yeah

774
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,240
yeah i'm an early guy too for sure um

775
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,320
maybe used to get along with graham and

776
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:34,000
now now i just suspect that you're all

777
00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:35,360
lying to me and the day doesn't stop

778
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,550
before 10 a.m

779
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,480
[Laughter]

780
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:41,039
um what was your favorite part

781
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,760
of the whole thing so many

782
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:45,200
you know one one little thing stuck with

783
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,320
me i i was on the tube and we saw this

784
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,240
this kid and he had a skateboard on his

785
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:52,240
lap that had all these worn stickers and

786
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:53,760
you know me i like my stickers and i had

787
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,760
a bunch on me so i gave him a sticker

788
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:57,120
and he just kind of slapped on his

789
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:59,520
skateboard and it was a nice moment you

790
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,720
know it was one of the first moments

791
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:02,559
there and i just thought you know what

792
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,559
this is what it's about like that's a

793
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,159
little bit of curiosity for that kid now

794
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:07,440
whether he knows what that sticker is

795
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,919
about or not he dug the design and he's

796
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:11,120
going to go skateboarding and his

797
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,880
friends may ask and you know that's

798
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,880
that's a whole other generation that i

799
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,240
might have just planted a little seed

800
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,760
for you know through just kind of giving

801
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,760
them a colorful noodle as far as i'm

802
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:21,120
concerned you know that that's what it

803
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:22,080
is to me

804
00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,200
um and then on the way out at um

805
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:26,880
the station

806
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,360
a police officer commented on my jacket

807
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,360
i had the ua ptf patch that i designed

808
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:33,360
on my jacket wow and he was like oh bro

809
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,720
that's cool and i was like oh yeah you

810
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:36,480
know what it is and we just got chained

811
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,919
and and they'd seen a little bit in the

812
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:40,080
news about uap but they didn't really

813
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,919
know much about it and i was like oh man

814
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,360
you never guess who i just met and they

815
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:44,720
were like no way and they asked me a

816
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:46,880
bunch of questions and they their minds

817
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:48,159
were just blown they they went away

818
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:49,520
talking about it and i was like cool

819
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,279
there's two officials in the uk right

820
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:53,200
there who are now talking about uap you

821
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:56,000
know yeah you know that's interesting

822
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,679
like because i was just thinking like

823
00:29:02,470 --> 00:28:59,840
maybe we should have more of an outreach

824
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,480
thing um where we're trying to reach

825
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,080
people like

826
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,320
not necessarily politicians even just

827
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,720
like people other people yeah and might

828
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:09,600
be

829
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:11,440
like open to this sort of thing or have

830
00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:12,799
thought about it and don't know how to

831
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:15,279
get more info or maybe they just really

832
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:17,840
like science fiction or maybe you know

833
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,240
anything because i think in the end like

834
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:22,399
the more people we have the more you

835
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:23,200
know

836
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:25,840
the louder voice we're gonna have um as

837
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,880
well yeah and i i think that a lot more

838
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,399
people have had experiences than a

839
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:32,320
latino i just think a lot of people

840
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,679
either they can't remember them for some

841
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:35,520
reason you know kurt russell with the

842
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:38,240
phoenix lights or whether they just

843
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:39,840
don't like repeating it because people

844
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,960
have looked at them weirdly when they've

845
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:43,200
said it before um but i think we're

846
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,960
gonna start realizing that there's

847
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:47,039
there's a lot more experiences out there

848
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:48,960
than you thought and i mean that in the

849
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,880
wider sense not necessarily advocacies i

850
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,720
mean you you know i've experienced the

851
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,960
light in the sky type thing um to answer

852
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:56,880
spaghetti lee oh no someone who asked

853
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:00,000
about ryan spray um that was complete

854
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:03,440
serendipity we we knew he was over um

855
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,880
but we weren't sure whether he was gonna

856
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,799
be in london and then

857
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,640
it turned out that ryan was in london on

858
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,880
exactly the days we were so we were like

859
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:12,880
cool we have to meet up and he was only

860
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,240
about 15 minutes from where we were

861
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,159
staying as well which was crazy because

862
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,240
in a city as big as london he could have

863
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:20,240
been you know two hours away

864
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,760
um so we were like yeah we got to go

865
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:23,600
meet him so we went and kind of abducted

866
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:26,480
him from his fiancee and his his

867
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,279
family in-laws and uh and he had a few

868
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,039
drinks and it was great it was really

869
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,350
there was a lulling conversation and

870
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,520
ryan kind of just went okay so what do

871
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:39,600
you guys really think about bob lazar

872
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:42,399
and that was you know an hour and a half

873
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:43,840
conversation right there of us all

874
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,200
digging into it with all our different

875
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:47,440
bits of knowledge and all our suspicions

876
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:49,360
and things like that and it was just

877
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:51,200
it was really cool to do it in person

878
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:52,640
where we could chew through stuff that

879
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:53,919
quickly you know

880
00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:54,880
yeah

881
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,559
um

882
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,559
yeah and it that's true like i think we

883
00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:00,559
take that for granted sometimes that you

884
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,799
know we are people

885
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,720
yeah and we're meant to converse in

886
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:06,640
person and we can get through things uh

887
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,080
a lot like

888
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:10,080
maybe the way it's supposed to be

889
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:11,039
uh yeah

890
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,919
in person and you kind of go away from

891
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:15,840
different meetings like that

892
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:17,519
uh with the different perspective of

893
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:19,679
somebody if for instance you just talked

894
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:21,519
to him on the phone or whatever

895
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:24,159
yeah absolutely you know there's

896
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,840
it's kind of like meeting somebody i

897
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:27,360
remember when i'm at the basis from

898
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,039
link2 and i came home and there was a uh

899
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:33,519
one of the videos was on mtv and my

900
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,519
brain kind of broke because i was so

901
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,679
used to seeing those people on screen

902
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:39,279
you know and and suddenly they were real

903
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,120
tangible people to me with real lives

904
00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:43,279
and why kids and concerns and i was just

905
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:50,789
because all of this has kind of happened

906
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:52,240
through lockdown

907
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:53,279
we

908
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,480
a lot of this is digital you know like

909
00:32:04,789 --> 00:31:58,399
i mean i promise you i'm not but i could

910
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:06,950
but yeah there was this nice tangible

911
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:09,200
quality to being able to you know you

912
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:10,480
can read people better when you're in

913
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,279
the same room um it was just it was

914
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:15,360
great it suddenly got not to say it

915
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,039
wasn't real for me before

916
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:19,519
but i i put a lot of myself into into

917
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:20,960
what i do and

918
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:23,200
to kind of suddenly realize how

919
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:25,840
real it was to some people out there um

920
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,320
and then meet lou and just be like oh my

921
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:30,080
god this is

922
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:32,240
yeah it suddenly became i was walking

923
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,760
through london afterwards in a kind of

924
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,679
haze just kind of thinking these people

925
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:37,440
don't know you know

926
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:38,559
these people

927
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:40,480
have no idea

928
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:48,310
yeah right oh man crazy

929
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:49,360
um

930
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:52,960
so like the one thing i was really

931
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:55,120
like wondering about when i knew you

932
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,720
were gonna you know have

933
00:33:01,990 --> 00:32:58,960
a lunch with lou or whatever like i just

934
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:02,000
couldn't stop thinking to myself

935
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:08,549
is it ketchup mustard and if it's

936
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:16,149
i i would say it definitely depends on

937
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,840
what he's eating

938
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,440
strikes me as the kind of guy to do

939
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:22,000
everything properly so if dijon mustard

940
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:23,519
is what you should prepare with what

941
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:25,200
you're using he's the kind of guy that's

942
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:26,559
going to go out of his way to make sure

943
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:28,960
he has that mustard right right so it's

944
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,760
about what goes with what versus

945
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:33,840
preferring one or the other right and

946
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:35,840
and being bolded to get the right thing

947
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:38,000
as well you know sometimes i don't know

948
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:39,279
i'll just be like yeah that brown sauce

949
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:40,559
will do but it's not my favorite brown

950
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,840
sauce you know it would have been better

951
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:43,600
had i just spent five minutes going to

952
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:45,200
the store and getting the thing i needed

953
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,960
to get the next day anyway

954
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:48,559
yeah well you know some things are

955
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:56,789
um i think you wanted to

956
00:34:02,389 --> 00:33:59,919
or i hope you still want to show me

957
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:02,399
something that you may have that might

958
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,919
be for

959
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,440
something pretty cool

960
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:07,279
this week all yeah i appreciate you

961
00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:09,040
giving me the room to do this here so

962
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,399
when we were in london and we met lou

963
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,560
you know we we sent him off like a pack

964
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:16,639
horse with so many gifts and things like

965
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,440
that but we we also

966
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,200
you know i i did that piece of art of

967
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:23,200
lou and everyone kind of passes that

968
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:24,480
around and it's really cool there's

969
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,440
gonna become a symbol of something um

970
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,760
so i had a bunch of my truth posters

971
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:31,760
printed and all the uap media guys got

972
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,040
one and we all got it signed and stuff

973
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:35,119
we sent one flew as well but what was

974
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,919
that

975
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:37,839
i got you can kind of see it here

976
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:43,349
you can see it's signed there as well

977
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,520
so this one here is one i've got signed

978
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,760
so that we can as a community do

979
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,200
something nice i'm going to set up a

980
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:53,359
raffle where people can you know buy

981
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,639
entries and they can buy multiple

982
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,560
entries and things like that um all the

983
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,400
money is going to go to a raffle that

984
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:00,320
i'd like the community to choose so if

985
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,560
anyone has any ideas you know might my

986
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,320
natural awesome towards christmas is to

987
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,000
kind of think of children's hospitals

988
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,079
and things like that but if anyone has

989
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,800
any better ideas just let me know um and

990
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:12,079
yeah it would be great i'm it'll

991
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:13,520
probably be in the next week or two that

992
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:16,400
i put that raffle together and put it up

993
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:18,880
um and i'll set the draw for christmas

994
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,520
day so whoever is getting it will find

995
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:23,040
out that they're getting it on christmas

996
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,000
day oh that's awesome

997
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:28,880
that's good stuff i mean that's um

998
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,280
and thank you for signing it as well you

999
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,599
know a great great of him to to allow me

1000
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:35,040
to do that

1001
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:36,160
yeah

1002
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,760
um you know

1003
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:42,079
and it just makes you that much more

1004
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:43,599
frustrating when you see people like

1005
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:45,680
that get beat up all the time i guess i

1006
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,000
mean i understand it to just a certain

1007
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,640
extent but i mean it you know

1008
00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:52,320
at a certain point we

1009
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,079
you know we can trust and it's okay to

1010
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:55,680
trust and um

1011
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:58,160
you know the guy's really sincere and

1012
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,760
works very hard

1013
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:01,359
yeah absolutely um

1014
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,040
you know it's constantly doing shows

1015
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:05,200
like this one or other ones

1016
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,640
and just to

1017
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:08,800
you know spread the message and have

1018
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,359
people um ask questions

1019
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:13,359
that he can answer you know because he

1020
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,880
understands how many people are curious

1021
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:16,640
about this stuff and want to know

1022
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:19,839
as much as they can so and then

1023
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,040
you know for

1024
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,040
another good person to be involved and

1025
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,720
think of something like that to make a

1026
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,480
poster to begin with

1027
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,320
and then it gets to a point

1028
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:30,320
where you get a signature and now you're

1029
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:31,119
gonna

1030
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,640
raffle it

1031
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,480
you know and somebody's gonna wake up on

1032
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,720
christmas and get that poster and a

1033
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,560
charity is gonna get a bunch of money

1034
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,880
yeah man it's cool we can do good things

1035
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:42,960
in the world you know and they they can

1036
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:44,880
come from a good place but we really

1037
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:46,800
it's spiteful because you know or

1038
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,040
selfish i should say because

1039
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,040
that the process of making that poster

1040
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:53,119
taught me a lot of skills with vector uh

1041
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:56,800
creation uh so so i get the riches sorry

1042
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,920
they're gonna keep paying for the rest

1043
00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:59,040
of my life and

1044
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:01,280
this poster is gonna pay once

1045
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,560
hey you know that's pretty funny that

1046
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,320
you mentioned that because i've gotten a

1047
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:06,160
lot better with like graphics and stuff

1048
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,359
since i did this show yeah man

1049
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:11,599
it's just exercising the muscle you know

1050
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,079
i've always wanted to learn coding and

1051
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,920
whenever i kind of have a project i want

1052
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,800
to make

1053
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,960
it just it doesn't interest me

1054
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,680
but

1055
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,440
when you kind of do things that feel

1056
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:23,839
easy eventually they you you know they

1057
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:26,240
become mad skills that you don't realize

1058
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,440
what the skills that you've required um

1059
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:31,440
and then you can apply to them to to

1060
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:32,800
different things

1061
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,599
yeah

1062
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:35,040
and

1063
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:38,320
that's being well-rounded i guess hey

1064
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,040
yeah

1065
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:41,760
and i i think understanding as well like

1066
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:44,079
i'll show you something else so before i

1067
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:45,359
went to london i started a different

1068
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:47,680
project of mine um i wanted to kind of

1069
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:51,280
get into resin art making um to do kind

1070
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:52,720
of physical tangible things i really

1071
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:54,160
like the patches for those reasons you

1072
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:55,839
know digitalize

1073
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,440
but it's not tangible in the same way um

1074
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:01,200
so yeah i wanted to get into resin

1075
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:04,000
making so i set some up before i left

1076
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:05,760
and unfortunately they didn't dry

1077
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:07,119
properly so i had to throw most of them

1078
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:08,000
away

1079
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:08,960
but

1080
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:11,839
to say basically that that

1081
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,440
sucking at something is the first part

1082
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:15,359
of being awesome at something right and

1083
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:16,960
even though what i'm about to show you

1084
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,560
what what is this

1085
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:20,000
is my vinyl

1086
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:21,440
dude amazing

1087
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,040
yeah

1088
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:25,920
that's epic an actual vinyl that's very

1089
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,000
very cool was that what's up

1090
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,079
to do can we buy that anyway

1091
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:32,400
uh yeah you can buy it on my my band

1092
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:34,720
camp but i i'll just mail you one or

1093
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,680
something oh dude i have a bunch of them

1094
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:40,079
yeah uh it was i'm very precious with my

1095
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:42,079
final collection and i i'd love to add

1096
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,440
your voice yeah

1097
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:45,359
sweet man yeah i would definitely send

1098
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,359
you one there's a whole story to it but

1099
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,280
i won't bore you with that now i'll tell

1100
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,640
you a different time

1101
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:52,480
but we'll do one person around the

1102
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,760
campfire

1103
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,839
yeah i mean that's

1104
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:56,880
that

1105
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:59,119
signified an end of a chapter in my life

1106
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,960
in the beginning of another one really

1107
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:02,640
so that was

1108
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:05,119
kind of put me here to begin with

1109
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,079
so

1110
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,400
yeah there's a whole story to it and

1111
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:10,720
coped and all that stuff all right i'll

1112
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:13,119
just tell you quick

1113
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,359
so yeah i put a bunch of time into

1114
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:17,760
writing this album it's uh like solo

1115
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:20,160
acoustic and all that and i'd written

1116
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:21,680
many albums and put them online and

1117
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:24,000
stuff made cds but this one i made

1118
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,599
myself with a couple friends but i

1119
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:27,680
recorded it myself and mixed it myself

1120
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,960
and amazing

1121
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:30,800
yeah and i've never had a vinyl before

1122
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:32,000
so i

1123
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,480
i was like you know even if nobody buys

1124
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:36,960
it i i want to be able to say that i

1125
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,240
made a record a vinyl yeah i get that

1126
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,000
yeah so i got it mixed and mastered and

1127
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,960
all that and um got the vinyls made and

1128
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,280
i was going to this one open mic every

1129
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,119
wednesday and

1130
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,440
you know i the open mic i was just going

1131
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:53,119
to it

1132
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:55,040
it was run by a guy named jim linneman

1133
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:56,400
and it was like

1134
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:58,320
kind of like our version of like a

1135
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:01,520
brooklyn 60s coffee shop right okay and

1136
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:03,200
i was just in this different spot and

1137
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:05,040
i'm like i'm just gonna go here and meet

1138
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,480
new people and do this because i was

1139
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,240
sick of like the kind of the same old

1140
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:10,480
scene that i'm used to and everything so

1141
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:11,599
i was going there every wednesday to

1142
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:12,960
practice these songs and write these

1143
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,200
songs and i booked the release show to

1144
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,720
be there and have these finals and

1145
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,760
everything

1146
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:19,920
and you know all the local papers or

1147
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,160
whatever wrote about it and you know

1148
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,640
it's going to be a big thing

1149
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:26,560
and it was booked for i think it was

1150
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:29,760
april 17th right and

1151
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,960
uh last year and everything shut down

1152
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:34,319
from covid

1153
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:35,200
like

1154
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:38,240
march you know the beginning of march

1155
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,960
you know and didn't open again for like

1156
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:42,240
forever

1157
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:43,119
and

1158
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:44,640
that year is also when i had my

1159
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,480
experience

1160
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:48,640
and later on a few months later and all

1161
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:51,440
that kind of stuff so yeah it was like

1162
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,800
quite a quite a trip quite a so so would

1163
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,599
you say your experience influence your

1164
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:59,200
life in a big ways to change the

1165
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,040
trajectory because we we always have

1166
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,359
these conversations you know that

1167
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:05,359
is influencing people and it can be as

1168
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:06,880
subtle as that

1169
00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:10,400
yeah oh definitely uh definitely is is

1170
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:13,119
changed my life significantly yeah i

1171
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:14,960
wouldn't be here if i if i didn't have

1172
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,760
that experience for sure um

1173
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,520
yeah and you know

1174
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:21,599
i'm sure it was same for you

1175
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,440
um i don't know when did your

1176
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,920
experiences start were you younger

1177
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,760
younger yeah i've always had a lot of

1178
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,280
strangeness around me and the more i

1179
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,200
took to my family the more they're like

1180
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,040
oh yeah they'll tell me the odd story

1181
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:35,359
and things like that yes let's get back

1182
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:38,079
to your resin sample sorry oh sorry yeah

1183
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:39,200
i totally gotta

1184
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,640
play with it like it's just stressed out

1185
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,960
i get sidetracked excited so yeah i

1186
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,640
threw a bunch of these out but you can

1187
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,160
kind of see it you can just see that the

1188
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,960
resin hasn't set properly

1189
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,400
you kind of do it in layers so you've

1190
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,960
kind of got one two three layers and the

1191
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:54,640
bottom two set okay and the top one

1192
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:56,319
didn't so meatloaf rules two out of

1193
00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,920
three and bad you know

1194
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:02,000
[Laughter]

1195
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,960
so

1196
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,640
to me this proves it's a great idea just

1197
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,560
the execution wasn't great um which

1198
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:09,359
means my next ones will be good um and

1199
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,720
and i've got some other cool things i

1200
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,160
built some square magnets then i'm in a

1201
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:14,319
setting clear clay to look like a force

1202
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:16,400
field and set those in resin as well

1203
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,760
um so

1204
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,079
you know i've got some cool ideas and

1205
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,319
and this has convinced me that i should

1206
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,800
stick with it

1207
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,800
well it's pretty cool that's for sure

1208
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,800
but i i have a feeling that you're the

1209
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,200
type to be kind of good at whatever you

1210
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:33,040
choose to do

1211
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:34,079
you know you're not going to do

1212
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:36,000
something and be like

1213
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:39,119
just half do it and yeah okay whatever

1214
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:40,319
like you're going to learn about the

1215
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:41,359
training

1216
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:47,270
you know they're a little pricey but

1217
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:48,560
there's a reason for that it's it's

1218
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,040
because the supplier i found was

1219
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:52,720
like i want to say probably like the

1220
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,440
ninth or tenth one i went through and

1221
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,800
all of them sent me samples and they

1222
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,720
just weren't things i would have been

1223
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,800
proud of giving out to people you know

1224
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:01,760
um

1225
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,079
and and i feel like sticking with that

1226
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,400
perseverance led to you know that's on

1227
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:08,800
that's on alex dietrich's flight jacket

1228
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,720
and and i sent them to david

1229
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,480
and alex sent a bunch to the other

1230
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:14,960
pilots they were there so every single

1231
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,720
pilot that encountered the tic tac

1232
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,720
whether they filmed it or you know flew

1233
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:21,440
around it they have that patch and and

1234
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:23,680
i'm very very glad that i took the time

1235
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,720
to

1236
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:27,040
stick stick with you know a high bar a

1237
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:28,640
high standard and and give them

1238
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:30,800
something that they can wear proudly

1239
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:33,280
yeah do you feel like um

1240
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:35,200
it's more kind of like patience with

1241
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:36,640
yourself

1242
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:38,880
yeah like there's been a big learning

1243
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,079
curve for me in terms of my process like

1244
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,760
how i thought i created things versus

1245
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,760
how i actually created things

1246
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:47,760
um there's been a few of my designs that

1247
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,359
i put out there where i was you know i

1248
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,760
look her and i'm just like uh there's

1249
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:53,440
there's something off and i can't put my

1250
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:55,599
finger on it but then

1251
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:57,520
you know that led to from that first

1252
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,480
uaptf design um with the tic-tac over

1253
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,640
the globe um

1254
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:04,079
that became

1255
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,960
um

1256
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,280
this guy right here with the ego right

1257
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,440
yeah so persevering and kind of

1258
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:11,040
realizing okay that idea is kind of

1259
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,560
percolating and it wasn't ready yet i

1260
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,560
just kind of had to wait as soon as the

1261
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,720
report date was up on the horizon i just

1262
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,720
felt an umph you know when i went for it

1263
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,240
right that came out

1264
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:21,599
it was cool

1265
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,480
that's so weird um how like the the

1266
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,480
different crafts that we have kind of

1267
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:29,119
work the same way you know right

1268
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,000
i'm the same way with like um songs

1269
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,800
sometimes um i'm not patient enough but

1270
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:36,480
that's almost because sometimes i feel

1271
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,119
like i have an overflow of

1272
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,359
just different things that want to come

1273
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:43,520
out but all in the same medium of music

1274
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:46,400
where you have resin and the patches and

1275
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:49,200
you know um and music too

1276
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,800
um yeah

1277
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:53,040
yeah which which is something when i was

1278
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,000
um

1279
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:55,920
a teenager i was in a band i sang and

1280
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,400
played guitar um there are some videos

1281
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:01,040
out there somewhere probably but

1282
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,800
it's something i want away from and i've

1283
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,480
recently kind of come back and tackled

1284
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:06,319
because you know i want to be able to

1285
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,920
sit around a campfire with sean k here

1286
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,960
one day and

1287
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:10,880
play goblin problems with him and have a

1288
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,000
sing-song i don't i don't want that

1289
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,240
moment to be a lesser version of what it

1290
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,880
could be if i got my ass into gear and

1291
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:18,560
got over my fear of performing around

1292
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:20,079
people um

1293
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:22,640
so so i recently did that so who knows

1294
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:24,960
where that's going to go um we should we

1295
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:27,760
should do a uh a private stream where we

1296
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:30,079
jam or something yeah man i'd be wild

1297
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:31,440
for that i've been meaning to say as

1298
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,440
well which do you use a chess app

1299
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,200
uh chess amp

1300
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,079
uh app app oh yeah

1301
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:42,720
yeah oh yeah we we've got to play chats

1302
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,109
three times in a row and i felt bad and

1303
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,200
they won't play me ever again now so i'm

1304
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:04,079
like oh i i overdid it and lost a friend

1305
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:10,470
that means i'll learn a lot from you

1306
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,760
that doesn't mean i'm going to kick your

1307
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:13,599
ass but i'm not going to get

1308
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:15,040
it

1309
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,440
different to most most people kind of

1310
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,040
you know they play by the rules and

1311
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:23,040
stuff like that um or the standards that

1312
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:24,480
other people play by

1313
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,720
a lot of my games consist of me trying

1314
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,160
to make pretty patterns and pictures and

1315
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,079
i just confuse my opponent insert

1316
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,920
lossless so it'll be interesting to see

1317
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:33,520
who's technique wins

1318
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:36,960
yeah uh i'm down man i'm i'm down i'm

1319
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,280
not like super like amazing or anything

1320
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:41,760
but i've definitely studied it enough

1321
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:42,800
and

1322
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,079
you should be doing

1323
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,480
so yeah you know

1324
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,640
castles and horses but i know what they

1325
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:53,680
meant to do and i played a few people so

1326
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:56,880
yeah uh lie chess is what i use

1327
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:00,720
okay is c h e s s dot org

1328
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,960
light chess yeah

1329
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,319
oh so that's like a website do i

1330
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:06,560
register as a username

1331
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:09,520
yeah and it's on an app or you know the

1332
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,680
oldchest.com whatever whatever's clever

1333
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,520
but i can't wait

1334
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,680
and you can do like games to where you

1335
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,160
make a move a day or whatever

1336
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:20,319
yeah that's the nice thing about it

1337
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,119
when i had a housemate before and we'd

1338
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:25,280
have a chessboard set up and we had a

1339
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,040
casino coin that we'd turn over once we

1340
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:28,880
made our move and you know we might not

1341
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:30,160
see each other for a week because they

1342
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,599
were working and i was working but it

1343
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:33,040
was really cool that that game was going

1344
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,480
on it was like little communications

1345
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:36,160
without communicating you know it was

1346
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,200
yeah

1347
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:38,960
right oh he's cranky today he got

1348
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:44,710
you got it

1349
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:50,309
yeah for sure

1350
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:53,280
um well

1351
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,040
is there anything that you're getting

1352
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,440
into that you want to talk about i want

1353
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:59,359
to make sure that you're able to

1354
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,720
you know if there's anything in

1355
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:02,880
particular that you want to discuss or

1356
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:04,720
talk about i am down

1357
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,800
whether it's nasa and you know mr nelson

1358
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:11,040
said some pretty cool comments

1359
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:12,640
what do you think about that what do you

1360
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,760
think of because both him and lou

1361
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:17,839
within about 48 hours of each other both

1362
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:20,480
alluded to human history not being what

1363
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:22,880
we think or not what mainstream science

1364
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,720
thinks i should say because we are a

1365
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:26,640
different space

1366
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:29,359
yeah yeah yeah no that that's true um is

1367
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:31,680
it a synchronicity or

1368
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,800
or what um i don't know what to think as

1369
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,880
far as that goes um but they both make

1370
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:38,640
sense

1371
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:40,960
i mean

1372
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:44,400
bill nelson is uh like

1373
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:46,000
what i really like

1374
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:49,520
about him is the way he delivers it

1375
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,520
like um he talks about it almost

1376
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,599
like he knows the weight of what he's

1377
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:56,800
saying

1378
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,680
yes

1379
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,040
does that make sense

1380
00:49:02,309 --> 00:49:00,880
yeah i would agree with you i would

1381
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:02,319
totally agree with you there yeah that's

1382
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:04,000
a nice thing now we're getting all these

1383
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:05,200
people who

1384
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:07,040
understand the gravitas of it you know

1385
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:08,880
marco rubio is not there with these

1386
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:11,200
little green men in costumes behind him

1387
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:13,040
kind of making statements you know he's

1388
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,720
like no this is a national security

1389
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,559
issue why why aren't people listening

1390
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:18,559
which is you know what a lot of us have

1391
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:20,800
been saying for a long time now

1392
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:23,359
yeah yeah for sure well you know he's

1393
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,079
just not like and there's 300 moons with

1394
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,680
water so who knows

1395
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:30,480
jelly it could be jellyfish all over

1396
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:33,440
yeah you know no he's he like really

1397
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,480
delivers it with uh conviction um and i

1398
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:38,640
really appreciate about that about him

1399
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:40,800
because it moves me when he talks you

1400
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:41,760
know

1401
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:44,720
yeah you you can or rather i can't speak

1402
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:48,160
for anyone else so i'll say i can um

1403
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:49,680
imagine him

1404
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:51,280
you know he's got the voice and the

1405
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:54,079
cadence to to stand at a podium and say

1406
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:56,400
ladies and gentlemen we are not alone

1407
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,359
you know i

1408
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,520
he's he could be the guy if it comes out

1409
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:01,440
any time in the next you know three to

1410
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:03,040
five years probably that the director of

1411
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:04,319
nasa isn't going to change so he'd

1412
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:05,520
probably be one of the guys that would

1413
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,559
announce it

1414
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:09,200
yeah that's true and they just um yeah

1415
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:10,960
they

1416
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:15,440
are coming up with uh maybe a new way to

1417
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,880
um announce alien life oh yes

1418
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:20,480
yeah again which is interesting that it

1419
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,640
came out at that time who works on

1420
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,880
something like that if you know

1421
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:27,040
you've been looking at the universe this

1422
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:30,160
long and haven't seen [\h__\h] you know

1423
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:31,440
you're not going to go

1424
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,040
out of nowhere i don't know what do you

1425
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,200
want to do well let's make a new way to

1426
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:36,960
you know say we found

1427
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,800
intelligent life out there

1428
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:40,400
why would we do that we've never found

1429
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,839
it doesn't exist

1430
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,240
because it's fun i don't know

1431
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:46,000
that's not it i was

1432
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,680
when i read about it i was thinking of

1433
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,119
like the

1434
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:51,599
the phosphine on venus announcement and

1435
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,640
and how

1436
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:54,480
you know myself included i was like yes

1437
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,319
you know life has been found elsewhere

1438
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:57,760
and then a bunch of scientists were like

1439
00:51:03,990 --> 00:50:59,839
whoa whoa whoa hold up this could be so

1440
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,000
so so and like i think that

1441
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:06,079
made someone realize hold on a second

1442
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:07,359
this could be right it could be wrong we

1443
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:09,040
need to do more work but

1444
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:10,960
we need a kind of process to kind of say

1445
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:13,839
okay we think we're at you know one e

1446
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,240
with the announcement um we now need to

1447
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,920
progress to 1d and we need all

1448
00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:19,440
scientists to look at this and try and

1449
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:21,760
falsify these these right this evidence

1450
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:24,160
we found and then once they get to one d

1451
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,680
there's another step to go and then

1452
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:27,359
basically once you reach 1a if you hit

1453
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,160
that

1454
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:30,880
we're not alone you know yeah well bass

1455
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,960
brings up a good point um it should not

1456
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,880
just be the us disclosing this that

1457
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:36,640
could be problematic and i think you

1458
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,800
could almost turn to

1459
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:41,200
um the work being done

1460
00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:42,240
um

1461
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:48,400
san marino and and possibly the u.n

1462
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:50,319
getting involved i don't know how

1463
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,160
possible or not it is at this point i

1464
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:54,319
haven't looked enough into it but i know

1465
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:58,400
um it's being tried with a vigor

1466
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,599
so

1467
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,200
the the question is whether the u.n are

1468
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:03,040
going to do it's a kind of cut before

1469
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:05,280
the horse situation right like we know

1470
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:06,079
that

1471
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,520
they've got this little stockpile of

1472
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:09,920
evidence with multiple sensor readings

1473
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:11,680
witnesses and things like that

1474
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:14,160
um that we haven't seen but whether

1475
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:15,520
other countries can see those things or

1476
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:16,319
not

1477
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:19,119
is uh for debate right um i know avi

1478
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:20,559
loeb has said that he doesn't want to

1479
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:21,920
see classified data because he can't

1480
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:23,599
talk to the public about it

1481
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:24,559
but

1482
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:26,319
i guess galileo project's a good example

1483
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,000
of what i'm getting at that

1484
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:30,720
there wasn't really a body in existence

1485
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:33,040
for this kind of consideration you know

1486
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:34,800
a lot of governments have plans for like

1487
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:35,920
oh yeah you know if they come down and

1488
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:38,079
start bombing us well we have a plan but

1489
00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:39,920
for the realistic prospect that we are

1490
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:42,079
not alone um and entering into you know

1491
00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:43,599
all these intergalactic trade deals and

1492
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:45,920
actually managing that situation

1493
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:49,440
there is no body to do that and i think

1494
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,880
maybe it's a situation where we're going

1495
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,760
to see

1496
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:53,760
see an organization established outside

1497
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:54,880
of the u.n

1498
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,880
that a few years after the u.n i'll kind

1499
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,119
of go oh wow yeah uh you're now in

1500
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:01,359
office of us you know that's boss yeah

1501
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:03,280
let's do it yeah

1502
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,960
yeah that's funny that you mentioned

1503
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,240
that uh avi doesn't want to see

1504
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:08,000
classified information or whatever i

1505
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:10,800
proposed this to him

1506
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,750
see but what if there's nothing there

1507
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:18,000
and if you saw the classified info you

1508
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:24,790
i don't remember his answer

1509
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,079
uh but it was probably pretty good

1510
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,040
because uh he's pretty direct and and uh

1511
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:33,839
way smarter tonight

1512
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:35,440
he was probably like you freaking smart

1513
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,920
ass shut up the nice thing about abby is

1514
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:39,599
that he knows that there are mysteries

1515
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:41,440
in the data or ghosts in the machine

1516
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:42,800
well let's use that phrase that's cool

1517
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:44,400
phrase

1518
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:47,200
you know he's seen it he he knows that

1519
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,040
even the

1520
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:51,119
the normal or the more mainstream

1521
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:55,280
hypothesis or solution to um

1522
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,359
was a nitrogen kind of uh coming which

1523
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:01,359
he has kind of gone to

1524
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:03,280
um at pains to

1525
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:05,040
emphasize that that's not something

1526
00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:07,680
we've seen before you know there's still

1527
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:09,680
incredible scientific mystery in this

1528
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:12,800
data even if it's not aliens so we

1529
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:14,480
should be studying it and it's a story

1530
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:16,079
yeah yeah

1531
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:17,760
yeah that's the thing is you know

1532
00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:19,040
whenever

1533
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:20,800
somebody talks to me i guess about the

1534
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:22,960
possibility of life you know in the

1535
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:25,680
universe and how small it is to them

1536
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:29,200
um i always just kind of say like

1537
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:30,480
are you proposing that we know

1538
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,680
everything

1539
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:33,760
are we done learning now are we sure we

1540
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,319
just quit we're stop we're stopping now

1541
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:38,079
right i think that's the point when you

1542
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:40,000
prescribe religion right like they they

1543
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:41,839
they stop asking questions

1544
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,000
they they think they have answers

1545
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:46,400
yeah that's true that's true well yeah

1546
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:47,680
because it's so you're just going to put

1547
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:48,490
your faith

1548
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:54,069
you know i say that and i tease but it

1549
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,000
is kind of funny how much faith the

1550
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,079
phenomenon requires as well especially

1551
00:55:01,589 --> 00:54:59,760
when you've experienced it and you know

1552
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:01,599
the things that

1553
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,440
you know i almost can't believe

1554
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:04,880
my brain

1555
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,280
when i have the memory of seeing that

1556
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:09,280
light fall like a floating leaf from the

1557
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,440
top of the you know the

1558
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,520
sky right down to the horizon it was

1559
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:15,839
insane i you know when it plays back in

1560
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:17,839
my head i'm like no that didn't happen

1561
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:19,280
that can't have happened because that

1562
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,200
can't happen but then something comes in

1563
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,359
going no you did see that dude like

1564
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:25,680
that's just

1565
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,400
you still remember it with like a very

1566
00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,640
intense like the intense detail of the

1567
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:32,240
object and everything

1568
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:35,200
yeah it's it's the movement that i i

1569
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,799
really remember you know it was it was

1570
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:38,400
just light in the sky and up until the

1571
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:39,839
middle of the sky it just looked like a

1572
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:42,000
satellite and then as i watched it kind

1573
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:44,000
of started flowing you know literally if

1574
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:45,599
you imagine dropping a leaf how it kind

1575
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,920
of wipes and kind of moves and it just

1576
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,680
started doing that all the way down to

1577
00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:51,599
the horizon and then just went and you

1578
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:53,599
just left thinking

1579
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:54,960
i mean i don't think i could swear on

1580
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,960
here i don't want to get you youtube

1581
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,559
but that's where you are you know i

1582
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:00,480
can't prove that i saw it to anyone but

1583
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:03,280
my brain hurts thinking about what i saw

1584
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,040
yeah no you can swear that's [\h__\h]

1585
00:56:09,030 --> 00:56:07,760
crazy dude yeah

1586
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:09,040
[\h__\h] crazy

1587
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,319
yeah

1588
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:12,240
oh man and then it just makes you think

1589
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,440
like

1590
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,359
you know there's so much

1591
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:17,520
there's so much that we just don't know

1592
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:18,799
you know

1593
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,319
but yeah it's pretty it's pretty intense

1594
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,480
i can't wait to maybe talk about you

1595
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,480
know more of your experiences and maybe

1596
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:30,880
mine with you i feel like yeah you may

1597
00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:32,000
be able to

1598
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,839
you may be a good ear

1599
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,760
for that kind of stuff but i'd be happy

1600
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:37,440
to listen and and i'm going through my

1601
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:39,440
own kind of discoveries though

1602
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:42,559
not discovery that's a bad

1603
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,760
i know mission with myself you know sure

1604
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:47,760
that i've experienced these things and

1605
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:49,280
yeah i'd love to get together and talk

1606
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:51,680
with you kind of you know off off

1607
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:54,319
broadcast we'll say yeah off broadcast

1608
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:56,480
so we don't bore you guys with

1609
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:59,680
weird light stories i'm just kidding

1610
00:57:02,309 --> 00:57:00,720
um

1611
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:02,319
and you're awesome you had a great talk

1612
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:03,839
one hour is not enough i could keep

1613
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:05,920
talking to you forever man absolutely

1614
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:08,000
the same i i was really glad to touch

1615
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,960
base with you when we were on

1616
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:10,480
priscilla's channel with the book club

1617
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:11,760
which people should totally go and watch

1618
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:13,680
by the way i love you yes

1619
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:15,680
quantum

1620
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:16,559
and

1621
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,079
yeah it's good to connect with you after

1622
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:20,319
this because we're all in this

1623
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,000
before last weekend i didn't realize it

1624
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:24,720
but we're all in our own little bubbles

1625
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:26,559
and and people i think see us on these

1626
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,839
channels and think oh yeah you know

1627
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,839
they're communicating with people and

1628
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:31,280
yeah we are but we are still alone in

1629
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:33,680
our bubbles and and it's nice to kind of

1630
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:35,440
break through those and reach out and

1631
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:37,200
make the bubble bigger you know

1632
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:40,240
yeah yeah it def definitely is um you

1633
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,160
know because we're

1634
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:45,040
we're so much more like everybody uh

1635
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:47,040
then then we realize

1636
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:48,480
yeah um

1637
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:50,880
the one thing that i can say you know we

1638
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:52,559
have one we all have one thing in common

1639
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:55,119
and it's that we're different

1640
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:56,319
you know yeah

1641
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:57,200
so

1642
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:58,480
i love that

1643
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,680
yeah

1644
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,280
uh anything else i'm not forgetting

1645
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:03,520
anything am i so we got the truth poster

1646
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,190
i'm gonna test everything

1647
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:11,359
i'm gonna have to try to get you to

1648
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:15,040
maybe participate my end uh uap oh yes

1649
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:16,640
please i would love to whatever you need

1650
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:18,960
from me let me know

1651
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:22,079
all of uap media uk it for a two hour

1652
00:58:25,340 --> 00:58:23,040
slot

1653
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:25,350
that's cool that's what happens

1654
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,559
[Laughter]

1655
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:31,200
i will give you two hours of my time for

1656
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,960
sure and i imagine the other guys will

1657
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:34,240
as well but i just don't want to say

1658
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:36,000
yeah definitely yeah yeah yeah you know

1659
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,440
one of them just get maybe at the math

1660
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,119
exam or something i don't know

1661
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:41,119
i do not work just give me an irish guy

1662
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:44,880
in an english guy and we're fine

1663
00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:47,040
yeah we need we need

1664
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:50,559
a welshman englishman scotsman irishman

1665
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:52,400
joke about your ep media if anyone could

1666
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,160
come up with a good one i'll i'll give

1667
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:55,839
you one of the matches

1668
00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:58,400
this is a really bad one but um you know

1669
00:59:04,490 --> 00:59:01,520
you could use this for that um so

1670
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,500
a guy walks into a bar ouch

1671
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:06,559
[Laughter]

1672
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:09,440
see i like those ones they're simple

1673
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:11,520
are you familiar with uh a liverpool

1674
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:12,799
accent

1675
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:13,839
no

1676
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:14,640
oh

1677
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:24,549
that's probably funnier than my actual

1678
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:27,599
joke so we'll stick with that

1679
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:29,359
oh man

1680
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:30,240
i thought

1681
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:33,119
there's a punch line coming no already

1682
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:34,640
well just if you're not familiar with

1683
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,799
the accent then the joke is meaningless

1684
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:38,400
but the joke was just in case anyone in

1685
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:41,119
the chat is um hey have you heard about

1686
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:43,200
the liverpudlian cow and the person

1687
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:46,160
usually says no and you just go mew

1688
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:47,599
which is

1689
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:55,270
i'm going to rip that and tag liverpool

1690
00:59:58,829 --> 00:59:57,920
please do it i'm sure

1691
01:00:04,710 --> 00:59:58,839
all of

1692
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:04,720
all right sir uh we officially went over

1693
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:06,720
an hour so well that's pretty good

1694
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:07,680
that's good

1695
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,839
it has been an absolute pleasure i will

1696
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,520
absolutely come back again i'm glad to

1697
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,920
break the ice with you and yeah we may

1698
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,000
be far apart but um we're all in this

1699
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:18,240
together so yeah you know what and we're

1700
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:19,839
not very far apart

1701
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:21,119
maybe not as

1702
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,920
as far as we think so no on on a quantum

1703
01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:26,160
level we are the same person sean

1704
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,599
yeah but let's not go there we'll keep

1705
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:29,280
that for the second hour

1706
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,079
what is i put his uh website over again

1707
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:34,559
in the description so you can get that

1708
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:36,559
ufo um like

1709
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,960
stickers podcast stickers if you like

1710
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:40,240
that kind of stuff

1711
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:42,319
so they're all available have a look on

1712
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:44,960
the signal.com um

1713
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:46,400
watch the autocorrect because he usually

1714
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:48,240
changes it to an s um and it's a

1715
01:00:51,910 --> 01:00:49,920
nightmare i should get a better url to

1716
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:51,920
be honest

1717
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:54,160
it's fine

1718
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,079
all right then uh we'll talk to you soon

1719
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:58,240
be good have a good rest of the day

1720
01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:59,760
much love man thank you very much thank

1721
01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:01,280
you very much

1722
01:01:04,390 --> 01:01:02,559
speak soon

1723
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:04,400
bye

1724
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:07,040
uh that was awesome glad we finally got

1725
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:11,280
that man on here um

1726
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:13,839
you know and i really do hope that is

1727
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:16,720
the first of many discussions we'll have

1728
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:19,119
because i do feel like the more

1729
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:25,750
the more

1730
01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:30,470
broad

1731
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:33,839
but beautiful things will be discussed

1732
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:36,000
so um can't wait for that thank you guys

1733
01:01:42,069 --> 01:01:38,640
so much for hanging out robert lara

1734
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:42,079
joe's dragonfly nigel um christian

1735
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:44,960
stephen um

1736
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:47,040
who else we got megan you're the best

1737
01:01:49,349 --> 01:01:48,400
jonathan

1738
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:49,359
bass

1739
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:57,510
i saw those comments john

1740
01:02:02,069 --> 01:01:59,750
grandmaster um

1741
01:02:03,990 --> 01:02:02,079
everybody j christopher king i totally

1742
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,000
missed you hello sir

1743
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:06,000
i'm glad everybody's hanging out here

1744
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:07,440
today

1745
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:09,280
um i know there's a lot of plugging

1746
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:11,440
going on for people's podcasts i don't

1747
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:13,359
mind that as long as it's you know you

1748
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:14,400
do it

1749
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:16,960
and you're out of there as long as you

1750
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:18,880
know other people don't get frustrated

1751
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:20,799
in the chat about it

1752
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:22,960
oh you're jonathan too cool what's up

1753
01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:25,280
jonathan i'll try to remember that

1754
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:31,029
uh josh what's up

1755
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:32,000
yeah

1756
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:36,160
midday work oh man well you got it

1757
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:37,280
um

1758
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,240
so with that being said i will check

1759
01:02:48,690 --> 01:02:42,720
y'all later